Comments for Palestine-Mandate http://palestine-mandate.com A news site on the nascent State of Palestine -- on the Israeli-Palestinian negotiatons -- and the situation on the ground Sat, 08 Oct 2011 21:18:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 Comment on EU + UN: institutions of Palestinian state ready by L’étonnant matraquage négatif et mensonger du narratif palestinien semble porter ses fruits contre toute raison | Europe Israel - analyses, informations sur Israel, l'Europe et le Moyen-Orient http://palestine-mandate.com/2011/04/palestine/eu-un-say-institutions-of-palestinian-state-ready/comment-page-1#comment-46661 L’étonnant matraquage négatif et mensonger du narratif palestinien semble porter ses fruits contre toute raison | Europe Israel - analyses, informations sur Israel, l'Europe et le Moyen-Orient Sat, 08 Oct 2011 21:18:44 +0000 http://palestine-mandate.com/?p=763#comment-46661 [...] internationales, comme le Fonds Monétaire International  l'UE ou l'ONU   qui affirment que l'Autorité palestinienne a tous les outils le lui [...] [...] internationales, comme le Fonds Monétaire International  l'UE ou l'ONU   qui affirment que l'Autorité palestinienne a tous les outils le lui [...]

]]> Comment on Two Israeli proposals for peace in one month – neither from the Government by Marian Houk http://palestine-mandate.com/2011/04/palestine/two-israeli-proposals-for-peace-in-one-month-neither-from-the-government/comment-page-1#comment-28102 Marian Houk Sat, 30 Apr 2011 09:53:23 +0000 http://palestine-mandate.com/?p=771#comment-28102 Update: I put the question to the NYTimes, and Ethan Bronner kindly answered, as we reported on our sister blog at: http://un-truth.com/blogging/a-tale-of-two-translations. Ethan said he received the Hebrew original, and an English translation, in a single email from one of the signatories to the Declaration of Independence from the Occupation. He said he sent the English translation directly to the NYTimes web designer, and it was published. When he went through a comparison of the two English translations with me over the phone, he agreed that the one published here on our site was more true to the Hebrew original. He speculated that maybe the English translation he received was done from an earlier version of the Declaration. I think it's also possible that there was a dispute among the signatories about what to highlight for an English-speaking international audience... Update: I put the question to the NYTimes, and Ethan Bronner kindly answered, as we reported on our sister blog at: http://un-truth.com/blogging/a-tale-of-two-translations.
Ethan said he received the Hebrew original, and an English translation, in a single email from one of the signatories to the Declaration of Independence from the Occupation. He said he sent the English translation directly to the NYTimes web designer, and it was published. When he went through a comparison of the two English translations with me over the phone, he agreed that the one published here on our site was more true to the Hebrew original. He speculated that maybe the English translation he received was done from an earlier version of the Declaration. I think it’s also possible that there was a dispute among the signatories about what to highlight for an English-speaking international audience…

]]> Comment on Two Israeli proposals for peace in one month – neither from the Government by Marian Houk http://palestine-mandate.com/2011/04/palestine/two-israeli-proposals-for-peace-in-one-month-neither-from-the-government/comment-page-1#comment-27433 Marian Houk Sat, 23 Apr 2011 18:51:40 +0000 http://palestine-mandate.com/?p=771#comment-27433 Now that I've seen (thanks to a link sent to me via Twitter from Ali Abunimah) the text to which the NYTimes linked, I think the question should be put to the NYTimes -- where did they get their version? Now that I’ve seen (thanks to a link sent to me via Twitter from Ali Abunimah) the text to which the NYTimes linked, I think the question should be put to the NYTimes — where did they get their version?

]]> Comment on Two Israeli proposals for peace in one month – neither from the Government by Marian Houk http://palestine-mandate.com/2011/04/palestine/two-israeli-proposals-for-peace-in-one-month-neither-from-the-government/comment-page-1#comment-27417 Marian Houk Sat, 23 Apr 2011 15:11:06 +0000 http://palestine-mandate.com/?p=771#comment-27417 The text was sent to me, in English, by the organizers in advance of the event, and I reproduced it exactly as sent The text was sent to me, in English, by the organizers in advance of the event, and I reproduced it exactly as sent

]]> Comment on Two Israeli proposals for peace in one month – neither from the Government by Joseph Hamadan http://palestine-mandate.com/2011/04/palestine/two-israeli-proposals-for-peace-in-one-month-neither-from-the-government/comment-page-1#comment-27187 Joseph Hamadan Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:12:52 +0000 http://palestine-mandate.com/?p=771#comment-27187 Where did you get the text from? I don't see this version on the NYT or Haaretz sites. The NYT has a different version. Can you clarify? Where did you get the text from? I don’t see this version on the NYT or Haaretz sites. The NYT has a different version. Can you clarify?

]]> Comment on Danny Seidemann diplomatically urges Palestinians/Arabs to “begin to educate themselves about Jerusalem” by Chris Berel http://palestine-mandate.com/2011/01/palestine/danny-seidemann-diplomatically-urges-palestiniansarabs-to-begin-to-educate-themselves-about-jerusalem/comment-page-1#comment-20984 Chris Berel Sun, 13 Feb 2011 19:29:29 +0000 http://palestine-mandate.com/?p=711#comment-20984 As the PA has already declared that Jews have no historic connection to Jerusalem, any backtracking will be seen as humiliating to Palestinians. This misstep by the PA is a benefit to the Jews. As the PA has already declared that Jews have no historic connection to Jerusalem, any backtracking will be seen as humiliating to Palestinians.

This misstep by the PA is a benefit to the Jews.

]]> Comment on Jonathan Cook talks with Haifa U. Professor Asad Ghanem about divide-and-rule by melinda Huntley http://palestine-mandate.com/2010/11/palestine/jonathan-cook-talks-with-haifa-u-professor-asad-ghanem-about-divide-and-rule/comment-page-1#comment-20024 melinda Huntley Wed, 02 Feb 2011 04:28:17 +0000 http://palestine-mandate.com/?p=679#comment-20024 A very good article and an old and well worn strategy - divide and rule. The British being so brilliant at it. A very good article and an old and well worn strategy – divide and rule. The British being so brilliant at it.

]]> Comment on Quartet on U.S. invitation: negotiations can be completed in one year by UN-Truth » Q + A of the day http://palestine-mandate.com/2010/08/palestine/quartet-on-u-s-invitation-negotiations-can-be-completed-in-one-year/comment-page-1#comment-17478 UN-Truth » Q + A of the day Tue, 04 Jan 2011 07:39:49 +0000 http://palestine-mandate.com/?p=531#comment-17478 [...] More on the announcement made in Washington can be read on our sister blog here. [...] [...] More on the announcement made in Washington can be read on our sister blog here. [...]

]]> Comment on Questions for Netanyahu by UN-Truth » Some interesting takes on the talks http://palestine-mandate.com/2010/09/palestine/questions-for-netanyahu/comment-page-1#comment-17475 UN-Truth » Some interesting takes on the talks Tue, 04 Jan 2011 07:33:58 +0000 http://palestine-mandate.com/?p=554#comment-17475 [...] “MOOD BEFORE THE JOURNEY [on board the private chartered plane carrying the Palestinian delegation] Palestinian: “They had wanted to go to the talks with a guarantee that Israel would not renew its settlement activity in East Jerusalem and the West Bank. Come to Washington and then we will take it from there, the Americans had apparently told President Abbas. The president agreed to an interview, coming over with Turkish coffee in hand. He told us he was oing to the talks in good faith and because he believed in peace through negotiations. But at the same time he told me it would be difficult for him to continue the talks if the settlements continued. He would pull out, he said, if Israel did not extend the moratorium. … “EXPECTATIONS AHEAD OF TALKS Palestinians: “It was to be the first time he had spoken to an Israeli leader in 18 months [n.b., it was actually 20 months -- since the end of December 2008]. His people back home were not happy about it. The settlement issue was a tough one. He was to tell the Israelis and the Americans that continuing settlements was a ‘deal-breaker’, one of his aides told me … there were more changes to the speech. By the time Mr Abbas read it out in the White House, it had been changed 39 times. … “AFTERMATH OF THE TALKS Palestinian: “After the one-on-one with Prime Minister Netanyahu, Mr Abbas said the meeting was positive. He told his aides he had told him about all his concerns and explained to him everything that was discussed with the previous Israeli government. Not only had Mr Netanyahu listened carefully, but he took down notes, Mr Abbas added. The Palestinian president said he had told the Israeli prime minister that the settlements must stop … Israelis: “Has Prime Minister Netanyahu undergone a fundamental change or was it just change of tactics? Were these talks for real or just a way to avoid pressure from the US and the international community to move forward in the peace negotiations with the Palestinians? Did he change? His speeches, his statements, gestures, all suggested a change of heart. In a speech at the White House, he said that he came to find a historic compromise that will enable both peoples to live in peace, echoing the words of such peace-makers as Israel’s slain Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin. He said to the Americans, to the Palestinians, to the travelling press:  ‘I am serious about peace, try me’.”  This “behind-the-scenes” report is published here.  [A rather different take on Netanyahu's position is noted in a blog on our sister site, here....] [...] [...] “MOOD BEFORE THE JOURNEY [on board the private chartered plane carrying the Palestinian delegation] Palestinian: “They had wanted to go to the talks with a guarantee that Israel would not renew its settlement activity in East Jerusalem and the West Bank. Come to Washington and then we will take it from there, the Americans had apparently told President Abbas. The president agreed to an interview, coming over with Turkish coffee in hand. He told us he was oing to the talks in good faith and because he believed in peace through negotiations. But at the same time he told me it would be difficult for him to continue the talks if the settlements continued. He would pull out, he said, if Israel did not extend the moratorium. … “EXPECTATIONS AHEAD OF TALKS Palestinians: “It was to be the first time he had spoken to an Israeli leader in 18 months [n.b., it was actually 20 months -- since the end of December 2008]. His people back home were not happy about it. The settlement issue was a tough one. He was to tell the Israelis and the Americans that continuing settlements was a ‘deal-breaker’, one of his aides told me … there were more changes to the speech. By the time Mr Abbas read it out in the White House, it had been changed 39 times. … “AFTERMATH OF THE TALKS Palestinian: “After the one-on-one with Prime Minister Netanyahu, Mr Abbas said the meeting was positive. He told his aides he had told him about all his concerns and explained to him everything that was discussed with the previous Israeli government. Not only had Mr Netanyahu listened carefully, but he took down notes, Mr Abbas added. The Palestinian president said he had told the Israeli prime minister that the settlements must stop … Israelis: “Has Prime Minister Netanyahu undergone a fundamental change or was it just change of tactics? Were these talks for real or just a way to avoid pressure from the US and the international community to move forward in the peace negotiations with the Palestinians? Did he change? His speeches, his statements, gestures, all suggested a change of heart. In a speech at the White House, he said that he came to find a historic compromise that will enable both peoples to live in peace, echoing the words of such peace-makers as Israel’s slain Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin. He said to the Americans, to the Palestinians, to the travelling press:  ‘I am serious about peace, try me’.”  This “behind-the-scenes” report is published here.  [A rather different take on Netanyahu's position is noted in a blog on our sister site, here....] [...]

]]> Comment on Danny Ayalon gives a glimpse of what Israel officials mean by “a state for the Jewish people” by UN-Truth » Turkish President stands firm on Israeli responsibility for Flotilla fiasco http://palestine-mandate.com/2010/09/palestine/danny-ayalon-gives-a-glimpse-of-what-israel-officials-mean-by-a-state-for-the-jewish-people/comment-page-1#comment-17472 UN-Truth » Turkish President stands firm on Israeli responsibility for Flotilla fiasco Tue, 04 Jan 2011 07:20:17 +0000 http://palestine-mandate.com/?p=577#comment-17472 [...] For an account of the same reported Ayalon-Fayyad disagreement that focuses more fully on another angle — the issue of recognition of Israel as a “Jewish State” (or as the “state of the Jewish people”) — see our sister site, Palestine-Mandate.com. [...] [...] For an account of the same reported Ayalon-Fayyad disagreement that focuses more fully on another angle — the issue of recognition of Israel as a “Jewish State” (or as the “state of the Jewish people”) — see our sister site, Palestine-Mandate.com. [...]

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